Between The Quotation Marks
Between The Quotation Marks (BTQM) is a podcast hosted by sisters Wamuyu and Tess Kangethe. The show blends a confession booth with a living-room chat, highlighting real, unfiltered conversations in the hosts' own words. Each episode features two sisters sharing two perspectives in an ongoing dialogue about the things that matter to them. It's an intimate and candid discussion format.
Episodes
🎙️ Ep. 9: Is Happiness Something You Find or Something You Do?
Ep. 9 of Between The Quotation Marks. Wamuyu and Tess unpack one quote: “I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I woke up and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy.” They ask whether happiness is something you find or something you do, and why we keep postponing joy until the next milestone, the next house, the next project. Along the way: hedonic adaptation, what service l
🎙️Ep. 8: Boundaries Aren’t Control
Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Wamuyu and Tess get honest about the gap between understanding yourself and actually changing, and call out the therapy-speak getting misused along the way: “protecting my peace” as an excuse to avoid conflict, “boundaries” as a way to control someone else instead of yourself. Wamuyu admits to a message she’s left unanswered for a month out of pure ego. Tess f
🎙️ Ep. 7: Looking in the Mirror (Part 2 of 3)
Part 2 of our three-part series continues and this time the mirror's turned inward. Wamuyu and Tess get honest about the parts of themselves they'd rather not look at directly: humility that isn't as solid as it seems, repeating the same relationship pattern with different faces, and why managing other people's careers was easier than facing her own music. The line that sums it up: "someone doing
🎙️ Ep. 6: No one is coming to rescue you.
"Whatever a person sows, that will they also reap."
This is Part 1 of a three-part series where Wamuyu and Tess dig into karma, real consequences vs. empty apologies, and why intention matters as much as the action itself (the flowers debate is a whole mood).
It builds to the episode's real center: boundaries, self-abandonment, and Wamuyu's honest admission that her life looked perfect on pape
🎙️ Ep. 4: Running on Empty
You can't pour from an empty cup, but what does "empty" actually mean, and when does self-care quietly become an excuse to avoid hard conversations? Wamuyu and Tess get honest about where they're each running on empty right now: 25+ client calls a day with no system to manage them, and the lowest point of a marriage falling apart. They land somewhere unexpected, that you can show up for someone e
🎙️ Ep. 3: Villain, Victim, Human (Part 2)
Part 2 picks up right where we left off. Wamuyu and Tess go deeper into villain vs. victim vs. human. Why blame feels easier than nuance, what it actually takes to hold someone accountable instead of just labeling them the bad guy, and a raw moment about being isolated by your own family when you finally say "I'm done." Also: being reduced to the worst thing you've ever done, and the manipulation
🎙️ Ep 3: Villain, Victim, Human (Part 1)
Villain, victim, or just human? Part 1 of Episode 3 has Wamuyu and Tess sitting with a quote that hits close to home: healing doesn't start with figuring out who was wrong, it starts with asking what was actually happening to both of you. They dig into recent betrayals, where accountability ends and abuse begins, and whether you can be hurt and harmful at the same time. Also: a proper introduction
🎙️Ep. 2 part 2: The Price of Launching
Part 2 is here. This half goes deeper than the first. Wamuyu and Tess get into who actually shows up for you in business (hint: not always who you'd expect), the discipline of scheduling rest before burnout demands it, and why "launching is the hard part" is a lie nobody warns you about. The heaviest turn: Tess opens up about her first business failing, not from bad instincts, but as fallout from
🎙️Ep. 2: Every expert was once a beginner
Every expert was once a beginner, every successful business was once someone's terrifying first day. In Part 1 of this episode, Wamuyu and Tess get real about the chaos of building their own businesses: token meters nobody warned them about, a dental chair leak on opening day, and the five-decisions-a-day rule that's saved Tess's sanity. A conversation about structure, decision paralysis, and choo
🎙️Ep. 1: The Cost of Trusting People
Every quote has a story. This one costs more than most. Wamuyu and Tess Kangethe open the show with: "To be betrayed or cheated is a small price to pay for showing up in the world assuming the best in people." Wamuyu breaks down the friendship that fell apart on her spectacularly last December: the favors called in, the excuses made, the moment "friend" and "someone who's just useful to have aroun
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